For the first time in two months, Australia has finally recorded a day with no deaths from coronavirus. It's a huge milestone after Victoria's second wave pushed Australia's national COVID-19 death toll to more than 800. While Australia's second wave is coming to an end, in Europe case numbers are again increasing. But unlike last time, the death rate doesn't seem to be going up with the number of cases. On today's show: * Why are the number of cases increasing overseas, but the death rate is not? * When will the Oxford vaccine complete stage 3 trials (if it's successful)? And Norman and Tegan talk about an interesting pre-print study that has found the number of COVID-19 infections in Australia could be much higher than previously thought.